Discussion:
FS: New Scott Venom 2 piece leathers
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Hog.
2011-06-02 14:42:16 UTC
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I commissioned a set of Scott leathers from GLF which were delivered in
September 2009. Unfortunately I couldn't ride. They have never been used
and you'd need to break them in.

I asked Graham for the best of everything in terms of features, I think it's
Knox CE armour all round. Kevlar stretch panels. The only thing that isn't
specified is a kevlar lining, which seemed unnecessary for this quality of
leather and construction. Graham knows his stuff and assured me these are as
good leathers as can be bought and compete with BKS for slightly less dosh.
So, the details.

Scott can slightly alter some of the dimensions.

Style - Venom (customised)
www.scottleathers.co.uk/prodpage.asp?ProductID=10

Colour - Anthracite
Height - 5'9". I'd say ok for 170 to 180cm
Chest - 44". Be ok for 42-46"
Waist - 34". I had them made loose to get a short fleece tucked in so
32-36"
Leg - 32". Cut to fit inside a race boot kinda length
Calf - wide fitting
Thigh - regular fitting
Arm - regular. Cut to fit easily inside race gloves

Location - Leeds
Condition - new, unused

Pics here:
www.flickr.com/photos/***@N00/sets/72157626867756244

Price - see the GLF receipts - cost me £555. Off the peg £438 today.
Sell for £299 collected

sm911 a t hotmail d o t c o d o t u k
Or TXT (don't call, I'll get back to you)
Zero 7 eight 12 0 3 one 4 3 one
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Pip
2011-06-02 14:51:45 UTC
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Post by Hog.
I commissioned a set of Scott leathers from GLF which were delivered in
September 2009. Unfortunately I couldn't ride. They have never been used
and you'd need to break them in.
I asked Graham for the best of everything in terms of features, I think it's
Knox CE armour all round. Kevlar stretch panels. The only thing that isn't
specified is a kevlar lining, which seemed unnecessary for this quality of
leather and construction. Graham knows his stuff and assured me these are as
good leathers as can be bought and compete with BKS for slightly less dosh.
So, the details.
Scott can slightly alter some of the dimensions.
Style - Venom (customised)
www.scottleathers.co.uk/prodpage.asp?ProductID=10
Colour - Anthracite
Height - 5'9". I'd say ok for 170 to 180cm
Chest - 44". Be ok for 42-46"
Waist - 34". I had them made loose to get a short fleece tucked in so
32-36"
Leg - 32". Cut to fit inside a race boot kinda length
Calf - wide fitting
Thigh - regular fitting
Arm - regular. Cut to fit easily inside race gloves
Location - Leeds
Condition - new, unused
Price - see the GLF receipts - cost me £555. Off the peg £438 today.
Sell for £299 collected
sm911 a t hotmail d o t c o d o t u k
Or TXT (don't call, I'll get back to you)
Zero 7 eight 12 0 3 one 4 3 one
I reckion they'd fit me, which would be a bonus as my current leathers
appear to have shrunk - again.

How nearly black is anthracite?

Nice carpet, BTW.
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Hog.
2011-06-02 15:30:22 UTC
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Post by Pip
Post by Hog.
I commissioned a set of Scott leathers from GLF which were delivered
in September 2009. Unfortunately I couldn't ride. They have never
been used and you'd need to break them in.
I asked Graham for the best of everything in terms of features, I
think it's Knox CE armour all round. Kevlar stretch panels. The only
thing that isn't specified is a kevlar lining, which seemed
unnecessary for this quality of leather and construction. Graham
knows his stuff and assured me these are as good leathers as can be
bought and compete with BKS for slightly less dosh. So, the details.
Scott can slightly alter some of the dimensions.
Style - Venom (customised)
www.scottleathers.co.uk/prodpage.asp?ProductID=10
Colour - Anthracite
Height - 5'9". I'd say ok for 170 to 180cm
Chest - 44". Be ok for 42-46"
Waist - 34". I had them made loose to get a short fleece tucked in
so 32-36"
Leg - 32". Cut to fit inside a race boot kinda length
Calf - wide fitting
Thigh - regular fitting
Arm - regular. Cut to fit easily inside race gloves
Location - Leeds
Condition - new, unused
Price - see the GLF receipts - cost me £555. Off the peg £438 today.
Sell for £299 collected
sm911 a t hotmail d o t c o d o t u k
Or TXT (don't call, I'll get back to you)
Zero 7 eight 12 0 3 one 4 3 one
I reckion they'd fit me, which would be a bonus as my current leathers
appear to have shrunk - again.
What are you round the waist and chest?

As you are kinda the same as me, longer body and shorter legs than regular
for a given height, they might well.

I suppose I should stop filling in this 'ere eBay sale?
Post by Pip
How nearly black is anthracite?
It's exactly as it looks in the pictures. You might call it gunmetal. Black
with some added silver. Not black as in a personification of evil. The
kevlar panels are the latter so in the contrast you can tell precisely.

*Seriously* feckin nice is what they are. 3 months wait. Bought with Bee in
tow for trans continental all year round hooning. Not long before the
pancreas and spine decided to ground me. And spoil the Bee thing :o\
Post by Pip
Nice carpet, BTW.
New *proper* carpet is that. Woven by pre pubescent Indian maidens and
colour fasted with their virgin wee. Smells like it too.
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Pip
2011-06-02 15:35:39 UTC
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Post by Hog.
Post by Pip
I reckion they'd fit me, which would be a bonus as my current leathers
appear to have shrunk - again.
What are you round the waist and chest?
44/34 respectively.
Post by Hog.
As you are kinda the same as me, longer body and shorter legs than regular
for a given height, they might well.
I suppose I should stop filling in this 'ere eBay sale?
It's certainly a possibility.
Post by Hog.
Post by Pip
How nearly black is anthracite?
It's exactly as it looks in the pictures. You might call it gunmetal. Black
with some added silver. Not black as in a personification of evil. The
kevlar panels are the latter so in the contrast you can tell precisely.
Grey, then. Hmm. Not as desirable as black.
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Hog.
2011-06-02 15:39:39 UTC
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Post by Pip
Post by Hog.
Post by Pip
I reckion they'd fit me, which would be a bonus as my current
leathers appear to have shrunk - again.
What are you round the waist and chest?
44/34 respectively.
Post by Hog.
As you are kinda the same as me, longer body and shorter legs than
regular for a given height, they might well.
I suppose I should stop filling in this 'ere eBay sale?
It's certainly a possibility.
Then you should bung me an email or FB comms and I'll hold back for a day.
Post by Pip
Post by Hog.
Post by Pip
How nearly black is anthracite?
It's exactly as it looks in the pictures. You might call it
gunmetal. Black with some added silver. Not black as in a
personification of evil. The kevlar panels are the latter so in the
contrast you can tell precisely.
Grey, then. Hmm. Not as desirable as black.
I'm sure there was a good reason. Something like "this is as close to black
as Scott can provide in the style within a quarter century".
I have a plain black leather 2 piece and probably prefer the Scott.
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Pip
2011-06-02 15:58:36 UTC
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Post by Hog.
Then you should bung me an email or FB comms and I'll hold back for a day.
Txt sent already.
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Hog.
2011-06-02 16:06:52 UTC
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Post by Pip
Post by Hog.
Then you should bung me an email or FB comms and I'll hold back for a day.
Txt sent already.
NP
I'll pick it up later and give you a call. I guess the UR might pass our
way.
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Hog.
2011-06-03 14:56:16 UTC
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Post by Pip
Post by Hog.
Then you should bung me an email or FB comms and I'll hold back for a day.
Txt sent already.
Sold to the Red Ruffian.
If there is any UR traffic between Leeds and Flitwick make yourself known.
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Jeremy
2011-06-02 16:47:37 UTC
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Post by Pip
Post by Hog.
Post by Pip
I reckion they'd fit me, which would be a bonus as my current leathers
appear to have shrunk - again.
What are you round the waist and chest?
44/34 respectively.
I do recall you did look slightly odd the last time we met.
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Pip
2011-06-02 16:55:11 UTC
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In article <***@News.Individual.NET>, Jeremy
says...
Post by Jeremy
Post by Pip
Post by Hog.
What are you round the waist and chest?
44/34 respectively.
I do recall you did look slightly odd the last time we met.
You're not wrong.

Post in haste ....
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Hog.
2011-06-02 17:21:32 UTC
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Post by Pip
says...
Post by Jeremy
Post by Pip
Post by Hog.
What are you round the waist and chest?
44/34 respectively.
I do recall you did look slightly odd the last time we met.
You're not wrong.
Post in haste ....
I think I worked it out.....
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Macabre of Auchterloonie
2011-06-02 18:15:24 UTC
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Post by Jeremy
Post by Pip
Post by Hog.
Post by Pip
I reckion they'd fit me, which would be a bonus as my current leathers
appear to have shrunk - again.
What are you round the waist and chest?
44/34 respectively.
I do recall you did look slightly odd the last time we met.
IKWYM
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CT
2011-06-02 15:08:30 UTC
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Post by Hog.
Price - see the GLF receipts - cost me £555. Off the peg £438 today.
Sell for £299 collected
Or, as we now have your address...
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Hog.
2011-06-02 15:17:54 UTC
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Post by CT
Post by Hog.
Price - see the GLF receipts - cost me £555. Off the peg £438 today.
Sell for £299 collected
Or, as we now have your address...
Except it isn't ;o)
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Hog
wessie
2011-06-02 15:25:53 UTC
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Post by CT
Post by Hog.
Price - see the GLF receipts - cost me £555. Off the peg £438 today.
Sell for £299 collected
Or, as we now have your address...
would that be the house with the nice Ducati parked on the drive in
Streetview?
Hog.
2011-06-02 15:34:28 UTC
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Post by wessie
Post by CT
Post by Hog.
Price - see the GLF receipts - cost me £555. Off the peg £438 today.
Sell for £299 collected
Or, as we now have your address...
would that be the house with the nice Ducati parked on the drive in
Streetview?
It was. That's the red one which Chris bought. I'd just moved in, not yet
purchased the chain saw and attacked the tree/hedge.
As stairs can be a significant challenge on days the scarab beetles are
digging deep into my spinal column I no longer live there.
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wessie
2011-06-02 16:25:43 UTC
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Post by Hog.
Post by wessie
Post by CT
Post by Hog.
Price - see the GLF receipts - cost me £555. Off the peg £438
today. Sell for £299 collected
Or, as we now have your address...
would that be the house with the nice Ducati parked on the drive in
Streetview?
It was. That's the red one which Chris bought. I'd just moved in, not
yet purchased the chain saw and attacked the tree/hedge.
As stairs can be a significant challenge on days the scarab beetles
are digging deep into my spinal column I no longer live there.
Well, when I landed at the postcode in Streetview I assumed you were in
one of the bungalows just along the road...which I suppose you are now
:)
The Older Gentleman
2011-06-02 17:42:20 UTC
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Post by wessie
Well, when I landed at the postcode in Streetview I assumed you were in
one of the bungalows just along the road...which I suppose you are now
:)
"Sheltered accommodation".
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Hog.
2011-06-02 17:47:38 UTC
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Post by The Older Gentleman
Post by wessie
Well, when I landed at the postcode in Streetview I assumed you were
in one of the bungalows just along the road...which I suppose you
are now :)
"Sheltered accommodation".
In 2009 someone paid £245k for one of those bungalows, which needed gutted
and rebuilt, which is gilding a sows ear.
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Hog
Macabre of Auchterloonie
2011-06-02 18:20:08 UTC
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Post by Hog.
Post by The Older Gentleman
Post by wessie
Well, when I landed at the postcode in Streetview I assumed you were
in one of the bungalows just along the road...which I suppose you
are now :)
"Sheltered accommodation".
In 2009 someone paid £245k for one of those bungalows, which needed gutted
and rebuilt, which is gilding a sows ear.
Glad I found mine when I did -
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Colin Irvine
2011-06-02 15:44:30 UTC
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On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 15:42:16 +0100, "Hog."
Post by Hog.
Graham knows his stuff and assured me these are as
good leathers as can be bought and compete with BKS for slightly less dosh.
I'd say he was exaggerating, but in terms of VFM I doubt they could be
beaten. I was extremely happy with mine, even at the full price.
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Hog.
2011-06-02 16:05:19 UTC
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Post by Colin Irvine
On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 15:42:16 +0100, "Hog."
Post by Hog.
Graham knows his stuff and assured me these are as
good leathers as can be bought and compete with BKS for slightly less dosh.
I'd say he was exaggerating, but in terms of VFM I doubt they could be
beaten. I was extremely happy with mine, even at the full price.
I've looked at BKS stuff. The leather might be a little thicker but you are
not likely to abrade through the Scott stuff and the build quality is about
the same. OTOH Scott are flexible and wearable and the BKS stuff is
'orrible, like wearing tin armour,
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Hog
Colin Irvine
2011-06-02 16:31:29 UTC
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On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 17:05:19 +0100, "Hog."
Post by Hog.
Post by Colin Irvine
On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 15:42:16 +0100, "Hog."
Post by Hog.
Graham knows his stuff and assured me these are as
good leathers as can be bought and compete with BKS for slightly less dosh.
I'd say he was exaggerating, but in terms of VFM I doubt they could be
beaten. I was extremely happy with mine, even at the full price.
I've looked at BKS stuff. The leather might be a little thicker but you are
not likely to abrade through the Scott stuff and the build quality is about
the same. OTOH Scott are flexible and wearable and the BKS stuff is
'orrible, like wearing tin armour,
No doubt. But to say "as good leathers as can be bought" is to say
they can't be beaten. I still say that's an exaggeration. The Crowtree
leathers which replaced my Scotts were better for a start, and I'd be
surprised to find that, for example, Zak or Wolf made inferior
products.

Your Scotts are extremely resilient, comfortable and an absolute
bargain. Why not just leave it at that?
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Colin Irvine
ZZR1400 BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5
http://www.colinandpat.co.uk
Hog.
2011-06-02 16:38:13 UTC
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Post by Colin Irvine
On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 17:05:19 +0100, "Hog."
Post by Hog.
Post by Colin Irvine
On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 15:42:16 +0100, "Hog."
Post by Hog.
Graham knows his stuff and assured me these are as
good leathers as can be bought and compete with BKS for slightly less dosh.
I'd say he was exaggerating, but in terms of VFM I doubt they could
be beaten. I was extremely happy with mine, even at the full price.
I've looked at BKS stuff. The leather might be a little thicker but
you are not likely to abrade through the Scott stuff and the build
quality is about the same. OTOH Scott are flexible and wearable and
the BKS stuff is 'orrible, like wearing tin armour,
No doubt. But to say "as good leathers as can be bought" is to say
they can't be beaten. I still say that's an exaggeration. The Crowtree
leathers which replaced my Scotts were better for a start, and I'd be
surprised to find that, for example, Zak or Wolf made inferior
products.
Your Scotts are extremely resilient, comfortable and an absolute
bargain. Why not just leave it at that?
Because I was selling them therefor they are the best in the world?

I rather like my Dainese jacket, but there you go :o) otherwise I'm
quoting Graham and he knew his apples.
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Andy B
2011-06-02 17:36:08 UTC
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Post by Colin Irvine
On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 17:05:19 +0100, "Hog."
Post by Hog.
Post by Colin Irvine
On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 15:42:16 +0100, "Hog."
Post by Hog.
Graham knows his stuff and assured me these are as
good leathers as can be bought and compete with BKS for slightly less dosh.
I'd say he was exaggerating, but in terms of VFM I doubt they could be
beaten. I was extremely happy with mine, even at the full price.
I've looked at BKS stuff. The leather might be a little thicker but you are
not likely to abrade through the Scott stuff and the build quality is about
the same. OTOH Scott are flexible and wearable and the BKS stuff is
'orrible, like wearing tin armour,
No doubt. But to say "as good leathers as can be bought" is to say
they can't be beaten. I still say that's an exaggeration. The Crowtree
leathers which replaced my Scotts were better for a start, and I'd be
surprised to find that, for example, Zak or Wolf made inferior
products.
It's the usual story in that you get what you pay for. Personally I'd go
to Dobbs in Northampton if I wanted made to measure and if I wanted OTP
leathers I'd go for Wolf again. I actually got my Wolf leathers at a
seriously low price after the owner of Dobbs leathers told me where to
find them in my size *after* measuring me up for a set of made to
measure ones supplied by him. That's what you call customer service
rather than just taking as much as you can off someone and letting them
walk away.
Post by Colin Irvine
Your Scotts are extremely resilient, comfortable and an absolute
bargain. Why not just leave it at that?
Too easy.
Macabre of Auchterloonie
2011-06-02 18:21:54 UTC
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Post by Hog.
Post by Colin Irvine
On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 15:42:16 +0100, "Hog."
Post by Hog.
Graham knows his stuff and assured me these are as
good leathers as can be bought and compete with BKS for slightly less dosh.
I'd say he was exaggerating, but in terms of VFM I doubt they could be
beaten. I was extremely happy with mine, even at the full price.
I've looked at BKS stuff. The leather might be a little thicker but you are
not likely to abrade through the Scott stuff and the build quality is about
the same. OTOH Scott are flexible and wearable and the BKS stuff is
'orrible, like wearing tin armour,
Black Prince PVC with glued-on (slightly) fluffy lining?
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