Post by ChampMark N
Post by Mark NC'mon, Ed, Lighten up - what's wrong with occasionally throwing a few
deserving jabs
And a fucking happy New Year to you too.
Jeez' 2011 and no fucking change. I make that 15 years (?) you've been
spreading your bullshit in rmr. I guess that makes your ability to find
a chip to put on your shoulder still "somewhat unproven".
Methinks you've been spewing your BS longer than I've been here (which
is less than 12 years, btw). So let's quickly dance down memory lane and
look at your legacy of rather left-handed support for Spies:
2011:
"Spies is undoubtedly extremely fast and an extremely fast learner. His
ability to beat the aliens is still somewhat unproven. This is his chance."
"I'd like to see Spies battling for the lead, but I suspect he'll be
just off the pace. I'll be pleasantly surprised to be proved wrong, but
still surprised."
2010:
[1/23/10]"Will his rookie year be better than Lorenzo's? Unlikely. But
then hopefully he won't have the 3 big high sides. How often or how soon
will he beat Edwards? My guess is that he'll be fairly quickly into the
second pack and there'll be at least one race where Rossi has his one
big screw up of the year and some other stuff happens that gets him on
the podium."
2009:
[2/22/09}"I don't think there are any obvious winners but there must be
10 people in with a chance. So yes, I think Bens Pies will do very well
and he will win races. But it's like he'll be racing against 5 Mladins
and not just one. So winning the championship is going to be a tall
order even though it may be within reach."
[1/31/09] "But I have to say I am amazed at how fast the Yamaha Italia
bike is straight out of the box. And what a great style Ben has."
[11/21/08] "Maybe there will be room for Spies in 2010 too. But I figure
he has to prove himself in WSB first. In one year. But there again,
maybe he'll like it in WSB and want to stay... As for the old chestnut
about "not all of them" I still have a hard time thinking of anyone who
could bring in top 10 finishes in MotoGP who isn't already there... If
he does a Bayliss and just completely smokes the rest of the field I can
imagine a door opening into MotoGP. If he wins a few, fades in a few and
comes 3rd in the championship, I don't think that will be enough for
2010. It really wouldn't surprise me if he's still in WSB in 2012."
2008:
[9/26/08] "Spies did well at three races that were really pretty odd.
Good on him. He probably ought to be in MotoGP. But I don't think he'd
beat Vermeulen or Capirossi over the whole of his first season."
[9/16/08] "Eventually, you'll understand the benefit of every national
series running the same production based rules. When the USA eventually
stops trying to go its own way and whoever it is that is running the
national series sees sense. And maybe then somebody like Jason DiSalvo
(or Spies) might have got the Yamaha Italia ride instead of Tom Sykes."
Your only actual comment about Spies in any of those wildcard races
[6/22/08]: "Seems like I've watched a great British hope have a
disastrous Donington GP before. What actually happened in that first
corner? Did he [Toseland] do it all on his own? Or did he screw up
avoiding Spies just in front of him? Not that I'm saying it was in any
way Spies' fault but an onboard shot seemed to show him get right on
Spies back wheel just before going down."
And then of course we're back to this sort of thing, in Spies' pre-world
days:
JB [5/23/08]:I'm sure I've said this before. If the problem is Suzuki
dominance why aren't the other teams better? Honda in BSB and Ten Kate
in WSB are competitive. They won last year's WSB, remember? Yamaha
Italia are competitive in WSB. Kawasaki are nowhere (yet) in BSB and WSB
and yet they're beginning to look like they are 3rd in line after the
two Suzukis in the US. What does that say about Yamaha and Honda?"
MN: "Yes, you've said it before, and you're asking once again because
you refuse to listen to the answers... I think it's all pretty simple
over here. Suzuki has continued to run a SB R&D operation in Japan right
through the MGP era, and that effort has largely been driven by the US
program, which means by Mladin. WSB also got the fruit of that, and has
had competitive bikes since the return of Alstare a few years ago and
Corser won them a dominant championship."
JB: "I love this. So Alstare win because of the US team? Yeah, right."
MN: "The third Yosh SB hasn't won since the last race of '05, which was
Yates' only win that year, and before that you have to go back to '03.
So that supports the notion that it's less about the Yosh bikes and more
about Mladin and Spies. Kawasaki hasn't won since '03, but they pulled
out for two years after that so are still getting their sea legs in SB.
They seem to be getting as much support as Japan has to offer, but
they're also in early development of a new machine, having apparently
made a jump at Sears. Yamaha pulled out of SB after '02, were gone for
four years, and in last year's return apparently were making a purely
in-house development effort, with predictable results."
JB: "So really, the other teams are useless because they're useless.
They're in, they're out, they're in again, they're finding their feet,
they haven't got riders of the calibre of Mladin and Spies. Next?"
Next indeed...